It reads oddly that you defend O'Reilly initially for his intellectual prowess, but when your opinions phase out of alignment he's cast as a sell-out or some such traitor. You must admit, he's got a great point about the non-threat of gmail in that everything that Google reveals the service will do is already being done, without disclosure, by every information outlet in existence. In my first year at my university, I worked in a deparmtment that had total access to everyone's campus correspondence, in spite of there having been a privacy guarantee and a non-disclosure act that required information access requests to be accompanied by a subpoena.
Concerning the status quo, I don't think O'Reilly is saying "don't rock the boat," it's more along the lines of "maybe you should have rocked the boat sooner."
April 22, 2004 12:09 PM
The threat is there, and it has been before, but where at all does O'Reilly say anything about this being a problem? I mean the title of the post is "The Fuss About Gmail and Privacy: Nine Reasons Why It's Bogus".
Yeah I do see O'Reilly as something of a sellout although I certainly don't blame him for it. If I had built his little publishing empire I'd probably be defending the status quo too! People get power and then they defend it, that's life.
But I'm on the outside at the moment, and there is a problem here that no one wants to talk about it. And yeah in a way Google is doing us a favor through their lack of social intelligence, maybe the privacy issues that have been glossed over for over a decade will finally explode... Maybe, but it takes people getting angry and paying attention first.
Wm Blaze |
April 22, 2004 12:28 PM
What an irony--moments after the above post, I saw an opportunity to participate in the beta version of Gmail. I've put the 'Gmail Agreement' up (http://www.c-130.blogspot.com), and, honestly, it is rather repellent. It was probably intentional that the small box provided to read the agreement was barely an inch tall and three inches wide (not a comfotable reading pose for anyone, I imagine).
I am an indefatigable defendant of privacy rights, freedom of information, and the freedom of speech that I feel are essential ideological centers around which the dialectic of a democratic republic and the rights of all humanity have been constructed. As such, I am fearful of what this service (and other related current events) say about our willingness to let go of those rights. As such, I want to use this account to test the limits of the currently ill-defined use agreement, as I am greatly curious as to what the reciprocal will be.
Curious? I am. And, as always, I appreciate your willingness to discuss.
April 22, 2004 01:57 PM
The impression I get with Google is that they have given their lawyers free reign to write these things up. And the lawyers job is to make sure Google is covered for all contingencies. And no one from marketing or public relations or customer service (if Google even has those depts) or at the top is doing anything at all to control the lawyers. The result is contracts that fuck over the user completely. And they might get away with it...
Wm Blaze |
April 22, 2004 05:58 PM
O'Reilly succinctly convinces his audience that privacy has never really been a part of the internet and the problem is, he doesn't seem to care!
Privacy isn't bogus, O'Reilly. fire your editor. now.
On my own tangent here:
Later in the article O'Reilly hints that a 'tightly coupled, centralized architecture is a real alternative' to the 'network-oriented operating system'. This bothers me. As unobtrusive as the ads my seem, and as light as their corporate image might feel, Google will never be my center for processing. ok. I support the local market. ok.
O'Reilly recognizes that Google is the leader internet application processing, accepts them like his mother, and wants everyone else to jump onboard...
Richard Owen |
April 22, 2004 07:05 PM
Worth noting that O'Reilly owns Google stock too, and stands to profit immensely when they go public...
Wm Blaze |
April 23, 2004 12:32 PM
I'd like to do a followup on that point. Do you have asource for O'Reilly's ownership of Google stock?
Gerard Van der Leun |
May 1, 2004 10:47 AM
Yes, in the comments to this post here: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/001886.html#comments
O'Reilly said the following: "P.S. Since you raise the issue, I do own a small amount of Google stock. I was an investor in Pyra (Blogger.com), and helped Evan to negotiate the sale to Google. But you should know better than to hint that I'm influenced by that fact. Remember back in 2000, when I led the one-click protest against Amazon, one of my largest customers? I call it as I see it, regardless of financial consequences. I don't appreciate the suggestion that I'm just trying to tout Google."
the post is a bit more then half way down the page.
Wm Blaze |
May 1, 2004 12:12 PM
The people who are so much concerned about privacy can just opt out of signing from GMAIL and block themselves from GMAIL users, as for me, I am looking forward for it.
And u cannot get those cool features gmail offers without a advertising revenue, so I see nothing wrong in that.
Pradeep Kumar |
May 9, 2004 01:58 AM
Google linked me to this page, nice reading
Andrew Lace |
November 5, 2004 10:25 AM
You are invited to check out the sites dedicated to roulette roulette http://roulette.win-2005.com/ blackjack blackjack http://free-no-download-slots.win-2005.com/ 888 888 http://www.vinhas.net/ online roulette online roulette http://online-roulette.win-2005.com/ keno keno http://www.win-2005.com/ free blackjack free blackjack http://free-blackjack.win-2005.com/ multi-line slots multi-line slots http://multi-line-slots.win-2005.com/ online blackjack online blackjack http://online-blackjack.win-2005.com/ no download slots no download slots http://no-download-slots.win-2005.com/ gaming gaming http://gaming.win-2005.com/ progressive slots progressive slots http://progressive-slots.win-2005.com/ betting betting http://betting.win-2005.com/ baccarat baccarat http://baccarat.win-2005.com/ online slots online slots http://online-slots.vinhas.net/ black jack black jack http://black-jack.vinhas.net/ online gaming online gaming http://online-gaming.vinhas.net/ slots slots http://slots.vinhas.net/ jack black jack black http://jack-black.vinhas.net/ free slots free slots http://free-slots.vinhas.net/ bet bet http://bet.vinhas.net/ free no download slots free no download slots http://free-no-download-slots.vinhas.net/ ... Thanks!!!
March 26, 2005 05:51 AM
You can also check some relevant pages dedicated to roulette roulette http://roulette.win-2005.com/ blackjack blackjack http://free-no-download-slots.win-2005.com/ 888 888 http://www.vinhas.net/ online roulette online roulette http://online-roulette.win-2005.com/ keno keno http://www.win-2005.com/ free blackjack free blackjack http://free-blackjack.win-2005.com/ multi-line slots multi-line slots http://multi-line-slots.win-2005.com/ online blackjack online blackjack http://online-blackjack.win-2005.com/ no download slots no download slots http://no-download-slots.win-2005.com/ gaming gaming http://gaming.win-2005.com/ progressive slots progressive slots http://progressive-slots.win-2005.com/ betting betting http://betting.win-2005.com/ baccarat baccarat http://baccarat.win-2005.com/ online slots online slots http://online-slots.vinhas.net/ black jack black jack http://black-jack.vinhas.net/ online gaming online gaming http://online-gaming.vinhas.net/ slots slots http://slots.vinhas.net/ jack black jack black http://jack-black.vinhas.net/ free slots free slots http://free-slots.vinhas.net/ bet bet http://bet.vinhas.net/ free no download slots free no download slots http://free-no-download-slots.vinhas.net/ ...
March 26, 2005 06:30 AM
You are invited to check out some helpful info in the field of...
March 31, 2005 11:55 PM
Hi. This is very interesting infos. But you may look at my site too. sister brother 1ncest 1ncest pic brother sister sister brother 1ncest free brother sister er0t1c 1ncest stories 1ncest video archive older men young women 1ncest pics free teen 1ncest pictures russian family 1ncest russian family 1ncest mother daughter 1ncest story free teen 1ncest pictures free 1ncest stories and pictures 1ncest pic brother sister older men young women 1ncest pics sister brother 1ncest free brother sister er0t1c 1ncest stories mother daughter 1ncest story free 1ncest stories and pictures 1ncest video archive free teen 1ncest pictures 1ncest video archive http://acf23.mn1ncest.com/free_mother-son_1ncest.html
April 3, 2005 02:42 PM
HOW EFFCIENCY ARE EMERGING EQUITY MARKETS?
Evidence from Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange
Study investigates how efficiency is the emerging equity market Dar es Salaam Stock exchange in the price discovery processes at the company level. Weak form Efficiency of the stock markets is analyzed using unit root, serial correlation and descriptive statistics of the stock returns.
Findings for respective equities shows different behaviors over time. On efficiency, the study finds that returns of all the listed equities are negatively skewed. It also finds presence of market anomalies and negative serial correlation of stock returns as well as long- run predictability for all listed equities.The study concludes that, the market does not clear due to the presense of outstanding bid and asks and recommends for the establishment of the dealership market, introduction of the over-the-counter facility, two tier markets, promotion of more listing and collective investments schemes.
justin kisoka |
October 5, 2005 12:24 PM