i've been a Wes Clark fan for several months now, and this interview really illustrates why. Forget about policy for second (even though it appears as if Clark hits homeruns on all the important policy issues that matter), I would be happy just to have a president who could, you know, appear articulate and intelligent- and Wes Clark nails it.
October 1, 2003 08:06 PM
I hear you, but I must say this quote put me off a bit:
"I worked in the South Bronx in 1966 for three or four weeks in the neighborhood youth corps as part of the Johnson administration's anti-poverty program. So I had seen urban poverty."
Not a totally damning statement, but it sounds an awful lot like he thinks those 3-4 weeks gave him some great insight. Shit they are better then no weeks for sure, but really...
October 1, 2003 08:52 PM
yeah, that's definately not the quote I would pick to put on the back of the book, but...
when i look at alot of the complicated shit going on, both domestically and abroad- i WANT a brilliant ivy league grade golden boy sorting things out.He managed to actaully lead an international coaltion to *capture* the bad guy they were after AND he's a scholar that can teach economics? game on. :)
October 1, 2003 11:35 PM
no doubt he's pretty impressive in some ways. I'm still taking a wait and see attitude on the candidates.
October 2, 2003 10:28 AM
this is patched together from biographical entries on clark: graduated west point 1966 started rhodes scholar program August 1966.
So we can guess he graduated in May or June which means half his summer was spent in the South Bronx. Note also, he's 20 at this point (b 23 December 1945).
It's obvious from this action that he's a) aware of things going on around him as well as b) displaying an affinty for an ideal put forth by a democratic president. yes it's only about month but shit, what'd we all do the first month out of college?
October 6, 2003 04:44 PM
Ryan, I'm all for the fact that he spent that time in the South Bronx. Its a good thing. The issue is the attitude though. That was almost 40 years ago, and it was a month. And he wields it like its some special experience that he should be commended for, like it gives him some great insight. It was 40 years ago...
The most damning charge against him so far is that he's arrogant and alienates people because of it. If he keeps up the attitude that a couple weeks in Bronx gives him special insight into urban poverty then he'll lose the support of some of the most ardent democratic voters around. Not a good thing. Still a minor point in an impressive interview. He'd have a good chance of getting my vote if I was a Democrat and the election tomorrow...
October 6, 2003 04:59 PM
Frist, my point is he's got his head/actions outside of places like westpoint, in a similar way that lieberman had with king and mississippi. if he was working as a counseler in the littel rock boys club during the late 50's and early 60's...this is while in high school and during college.
Point taken and i agree he shouldn't use wield this around as his connection to urban black america...you're right about impressions and demenour: arragoance/fake sympathy are visiable to all. it’d be annoying like “see I did that, I filled my required time and energy on that ‘problem’, I can check that off my list of things to cover”... but clark's dropped it in one interview, so far.
apart from arragoance, what else bothers you about clark, as a non-democrat?
October 7, 2003 11:37 AM
"apart from arragoance, what else bothers you about clark, as a non-democrat?"
I'd like to know more about how he's gotten the rep as being hated by many in the army. Beyond that I really am just concerned with how little info there is about him. There is very little to judge how he'd actually act as a president.
October 7, 2003 04:48 PM