July 31, 2003

plateau # finishing thoughts

A Thousand Plateaus is "finished". As in I read every page. Some more then once or twice. As for the actual words, I'm notoriously poor at actually reading all of them, always looking for the larger patterns, not the precise sequences. Anyways I'm assuming I'll need to return... Some random thoughts Couldn't abstract machines more accurately be called algorithms? While the authors seem to tie "the State" directly to striated space, its seems that many states are actually using striation in 3D space in order to move in the smooth space of time. To reach a plateau where the state always has existed and always will exist. Continuing on one could say that striated and smooth space don't just interweave, but sometimes exist at exactly the same point. From angle a striation may actually be a path through smooth space. Is Google "the State" of the web. Its constantly spidering, or deterritorializing, web sites, then indexing and reterritorializing them as search results and cached pages. However Google generally in not fully blocking the line of flight, its just pausing it, indexing it and presenting the user options back to the original territories. Posted by Abe at July 31, 2003 12:01 PM | TrackBack
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abstract machines would have a relation to algorithms, but algorithms would always remain bound to numbers & thus calculation .. abstract machines would exceed this, hence the machine bit, the abstract bit, and the way in which an abstract machine has tendrils that dip down into the milieu of the plane of consistency... etc .. basically the main point is that numbers themselves remain a concept and a strata for D&G, thus abstract machines could not be reduced to them. it's more quantum than algorithmic.

as for the smooth and the striated, yes you understand it well, it's nothing to do with points though. smooth/striated is all about perspective, placement, viewpoint; they are flipsides of the mix, so to speak, so their "interweaving" is not of opposites buf of events. while a different angle may allow recomination of a striation to a path, we'd have to understand this as exterior to the language of IS and ACTUALLY ..

in any case the State is yes, always a striation -- but also ALWAYS IMMANENT .. which means inescapable. this is a necessary conjunctive otherwise we have to claim the origin of the State and various teleological structures and so on, which D&G are at pains to avoid as a framework and see only as historical in and of themselves.

i can't believe you read this so quickly. i think you'll eventually want to read it again, but slowly, esp. if you want it to really sink in. may i also recommend Deleuze's two books on cinema, Nietzsche, and Bergson's Matter and Memory.

Posted by: tobias c. van Veen on August 1, 2003 12:18 AM

hmmm, definitely going to want to reread it, although I must say I think this the *slowest* I've ever read a book that I actually enjoyed. I also should note that I spent a over a year periodically trying to read _Anti-Oedipus_, and give that I can't remember a thing from it, I'd like to think that it at least gave a strong familiarity with D&G's language allowing me to read MP relatively quickly.

I'm not so sure why algorithms need to be bound to numbers. In fact in their common programming usage they often have little to do with numbers, other then the fact that computers as Turing machines run off binary logic. A quick look at the definitions of the word indicate a tendency for it to be associated with concepts like "precise" and "finite", but I believe that's mostly a due to its cultural association with programming, not core to its understanding. And only one definition I found bound its self to math in anyway.

Regardless its probably best to say something like "abstract algorithm", which I think better represents D+G's conception of "abstract machine" then phrase "abstract machines" itself. The algorithm is about loops and procedures and filled with variables, where as a "machine" is merely a construct made of the finite simple machines that exists (levers, wedges, pulley's, etc), and leaves very little room for variation.

As for book recommendations, they are always welcome, thanks.

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